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This Tuesday night the Manhattan Beach City council will vote on a resolution endorsing so called Gay Marriage. The resolution is an illogical Homosexual Manifesto and will make Manhattan Beach look like another Looney California Town. It’s item 21, the last item of the agenda.
Please show up Tuesday, Nov. 20, at 6 pm and sign in to speak against this idiocy.
Bob is absolutely correct. The City council has NO business bringing this up, or attacking Marriage!! Manhattan Beach is a family oriented Town. The California Constitution holds marriage for what it is, ‘the institution where a man and a woman come together to do the hard work of creating and training the next generation of good citizens’. It is an institution created out of the obvious truth that humans are created male and female, and, only in that, the next generation springs forth. There is NO civil rights issue, men are required to marry woman, whether gay or not, and women are required to married men, whether gay or not. It applies to all equally. There is no 3rd species of humans called ‘Gay’. The Gay agenda is a distortion of truth, and is solely propaganda and the City Manhattan Beach should stay far away from it.
The only interest, compelling or otherwise, the State has in marriage is precisely because only it, marriage between one man and one woman, has the natural power to propagate and efficiently train the next generation of citizens. The State needs to support this! THERE IS NO OTHER STATE INTEREST! So, what possible interest does Manhattan Beach have in homosexuality, or anybodies sex life? Unfortunately, we need stand up to tell our local government to stay our of our sex lives!
This is an agenda of Council man Nick Tell, apparently a confused and gullible man himself. So we need to tell Nick Tell, GET A LIFE! As with much of these agendas, elitist such as Tell, run for these offices and then use them to push their bizarre agendas without anyone knowing about it. But the whole council agreed to put it on the agenda for a vote.
Anyone of right mind needs to help stop this nonsense. We need to take names of the Council members and prepare our votes based on their behavior. We need to plaster Nick Tell’s name on the Wall of Shame. He may be a bully that will wield the disinformation of the Gay agenda at us residences, call us names and intimidate all of us, all the while causing the trouble in the first place. These are Bolshevik tactics, and unless we get some backbone we will be steamrolled.
Pass this on to everyone you know who has an interest in sanity. Show up Tuesday November 20, 6 pm. And write the council.
Bob Visty’s original message is below. Write the council members if you cannot show up.
Subject: Manhattan Beach City Council wants to endorse same-sex marriage - why? It is not their job...
Manhattan Beach City council wants to endorse same-sex marriage - why? It is not their job and they don't have the right to represent us citizens on this or any national or state issue. Council grandstanding? Personal agendas? What's up?
Below you'll find the condensed version of two emails I sent off to council. I hope you or whomever will take the time to add your own thoughts, and that anything going forward is in your own words, because my writing would be apparent and would diminish its value as additional input.
Background: apparently, former mayor Nick Tell received a letter asking that the city pass a resolution supporting same sex marriage. The U.S. Conference of Mayors unanimously voted to support same-sex marriage in 2009. At the November 6 2012 City council meeting, Tell pushed hard to get a supporting resolution formally agendized for a vote at a future meeting. Tell argued that was only asking council to put it on the agenda, but that it needed to be agendized because same sex marriage is a "fundamental human right." Nov 6 agenda (it's the final order of business, page 7)
If that link does not work, you can reach it from this City page:
From the agenda you can reach the item of business
And from there you'll find a template for a support letter, provided by freedomtomarry.org
Council unanimously voted to agendize the resolution but has not yet voted on it. Their discussion is available, if you want to hear it, from the council website:
http://www.citymb.info/Index.aspx?page=1804 but it takes 30 minutes or so to download.
Personal feelings about same-sex marriage aside, I have a big problem with Council representing me, or speaking for the city, on matters over which they have no jurisdiction. So, I will closely question any candidates vying for one of the three council seats up fro grab in March. Current candidates are:current Mayor Wayne Powell, Tony D'Errico, Mark Lipps, previous City Councilman Mitch Ward, Martha Andreani and Kathleen Paralusz. You can follow the election here:
Anyway, here is the condensed version of my two emails to Council. And thanks.
I elect my local government officials – city council members – to handle local issues. Things like a city budget, zoning and encroachment matters, road maintenance, and expenditures for parks and recreation. I do not elect city council members so the five of them can presume to represent me, or my town, on state and national issues. For state legislation, I elect assemblymen and state senators, and, of course, senators and representatives for national matters.
It’s natural for elected folk to feel that they must have “vision” and demonstrate “leadership.” But, I don’t think that council should take positions on state and national issues in the name of the City of Manhattan Beach. I can cast my own vote on state and federal issues.
Yet, self-important councils routinely weigh-in on matters over which they have no jurisdiction. It is not a matter of how one feels about a given issue. Rather, the question is, should Council take a position on a state issue, over which it has no standing?
No. I don't think Council should presume to speak for the City of Manhattan Beach. Three votes of a five member council do not speak for us citizens on national and state issues, ever. Each council member may cast a ballot like the rest of us, but our government is not set up such that citizens elect Councils to pass resolutions, to then tally the votes of Cities. Such resolutions are symbolic, represent only the majority opinion of the 5 person council, and have no legal weight.
Might any issue affect our town? Of course, but that doesn't mean that local councils actually have a say on state of federal legislation, or pending court cases. U.S. involvement in the Middle East affects our community, for example, but council was not elected to represent the citizens of Manhattan Beach in foreign policy matters. We elect congressmen and a president for these issues. .
However, passing resolution will certainly make Manhattan Beach newsworthy.
Bold leadership or political grandstanding?
Either way, not what I elect council members to do.
Bruce Boyer, Agoura Hills, Chief Instigator, SonsofLibertyLAChief Instigator E-mail: firstname.lastname@example.org